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by teaneedz 3933 days ago
So why are we allowing Microsoft to get away with it?
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Why are we allowing any of the corporations, governments, and police departments to get away with any of the stupid shit they continuously do? Mostly because it would take a significant act of power to do anything about it, power which we don't have and even if we do, we do not wish to exercise. The exercising of which would probably cause more problems in the short term than it would solve. Most people will not do anything about such problems.
> Mostly because it would take a significant act of power to do anything about it, power which we don't have and even if we do, we do not wish to exercise.

It starts a step before that - awareness. Most folks aren't aware of the things that are done, and even of those who are only a minor subset consider these things to be a problem.

Lack of motivation to try to make change winnows out most of those who get past the first two problems. The unfortunate truth is that of the small subset who are aware and offended, most simply have higher priorities.

> Most folks aren't aware of the things that are done

I totally disagree. With today's media most people are hyper aware, disproportionately, of everything that goes on. Perhaps even desensitized by their over-awareness.

Agreed, most will probably do nothing that's an inconvenience. It just seems that Windows 10 should be causing us all to leave Windows completely since it is out rightly not respecting users and not even caring about it. Linux time.
Most will probably do nothing because they don't see an alternative, and so they are resigned to using products they know are harmful.

https://www.asc.upenn.edu/news-events/publications/tradeoff-...

edit: fixed URL I copied from the wrong tab

As long as MS gets paid, they will do what they want, so stop paying them. Stop giving them revenue directly, and stop giving them market share that that they profit from indirectly.

Anybody that continues to use their products is asking for more of this crap. Some may complain that their business depends on Windows; that's unfortunate, but why didn't they have a second source for all mission critical dependencies?

I don't know if it's a matter of our business depending on Windows more than our business wanting to depend on Windows. We like using Windows because they have such an awesome product. Same thing with Apple. I got the new OS and all of a sudden my iphone 3g started going unbearably slow... so I had to get a new iphone.

My stance is... if they use 6gb of my internet to download updates... okay, whatever... i get unlimited(ish). But if I turn it off and it still does it... that sounds more like a bug in their software. It's still not a big enough deal for me not go with Windows for an OS... it's too good of an OS. I don't think it warrants boycotting MS.

P.S. I didn't pay for Win10. They gave me the upgrade for free.

> I didn't pay for Win10. They gave me the upgrade for free.

Oh, you paid for it; the price tag simply wasn't in dollars. You should probably see Aral Balkan's explanation[1] of the concept.

[1] https://projectbullrun.org/surveillance/2015/video-2015.html...

Because automatically keeping all Windows users on the latest version makes the internet safer for everyone.
Is Microsoft/Apple/Google/etc. prepared to pay me for software that I've previously purchased but is incompatible with their newer OS? Plus any costs associated with finding new software, training on the new software, migrating to the new software, etc.?
It's the application developer's responsibility to maintain compatibility. That's why Windows offers people dev preview builds.

The people who make the software you use don't do that? Don't use their software.

This isn't a security patch. This is pre-downloading an entire OS upgrade without the user asking for it.
You don't believe the newer version of the OS is more secure?

If nothing else, supporting fewer active versions would make MS more responsive to any security issues that do arise.

No I certainly don't. And Windows 7/8 is still supported and patched so nothing makes Windows 10 any more secure.

In fact, I'd say it's less secure since it hasn't been as well tested in the wild as Win 7/8.