[mbesto]

> And it’s not just Node.js. Maybe you haven’t looked at what IBM is doing with open source lately. I was surprised when I dug in. For example, did you know they are leading contributors to:

Linux OpenStack Cloud Foundry Docker plus many Apache projects like Spark, Cordova and Hadoop and of course, Node

They are? (keyword => "leading")

https://github.com/docker/docker/graphs/contributors

https://github.com/apache/spark/graphs/contributors

I find this claim dubious. Maybe I'm not digging hard enough.

[_delirium]

It looks like IBM's Spark-related work is planned to be here initially: https://github.com/SparkTC

There's an article here: http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/15/ibm-pours-researchers-and-r...

[nickstinemates]

Speaking just about Docker and not commenting on this post in particular: IBM employs at least 5 people who dedicate their time to working upstream. Duglin, as an example is #11 on the contribution graph in your list

disclosure: I run partnerships for Docker.

[kitd]

IBM are working on the runtimes for things like Node, Spark, Python, Docker, and augmenting them to perform well on IBM platforms and integrate with IBMs enterprise monitoring and diagnostic tools.

Some of these augmentations have been contributed back to the main projects.

[mbesto]

That sounds great, but where is the source?

[jacques_chester]

On Cloud Foundry they are a major contributor; only Pivotal donates more engineering effort (disclaimer: I work for Pivotal Labs).

IBM has a lot of working engineers at Cloud Foundry HQ in San Francisco. Last I checked IBM-CFers were the whole CLI team and they're doing great.

[draw_down]

What is it about these posts that bring out the HN contingent who think themselves firebrand skeptics? This is basically a marketing piece, what good is fact-checking it

[mbesto]

I've done a fair bit of PR writing myself so I'm happy to be skeptical and understand the line between marketing speak and reality.

The problem here is the audience is clearly the developer community (which I'm also a part of). Developer communities have a right be skeptical about key acquisitions of their open source dependancies. It can have massive commercial implications on software design decisions, etc.

Open source is built on trust. Dubious communication does nothing but erode that trust.

[vog]

> This is basically a marketing piece, what good is fact-checking it

Not sure about the US laws, but here in Germany, all marketing claims must stay to the facts, or the company can be sued.

(Which is why most marketing speak uses fuzzy terms that sound nice but don't convey any information. But that's a general trend anyway.)

[xacaxulu]

Yeah but we have 'freedom' here in the US </sarcasm>. I love French restrictions on adverts for medications as well, they're very stringent. As a dual US/EU citizen, I never run out of interesting divergences like the one you've pointed out.

[meatysnapper]

Es musst die Wahrheit sein!!!

[pluma]

Ah, Hollywood German. How lovely.

[robertfw]

A little more honest marketing would do the world some good. I'm all for having someone check and call out bs where it is found.