[AnimalMuppet]

>> No scripting language can ever integrate with the host system quite as well as shell scripts can.

> What is the basis for this? Shell script is a scripting language (more precisely, a set of scripting languages with similar features.) The difference between shell scripting languages and other scripting languages is that the former are optimized around the need to scale down to a convenient line-by-line way to work with the system in a REPL; while the others may support work in a REPL it is not what they are optimized for.

Disagree. The defining characteristic of shell scripting languages is that they are a shell that can be scripted. What's a shell? It's a program designed to be a layer around the OS, exposing all of the capabilities of the OS to the user in a convenient form.

So the only way a non-shell scripting language can become that powerful is to become a shell scripting language.

[brazzledazzle]

>What's a shell? It's a program designed to be a layer around the OS, exposing all of the capabilities of the OS to the user in a convenient form.

I think that's what they were getting at when they said:

>optimized around the need to scale down to a convenient line-by-line way to work with the system in a REPL

The only real difference is optimization for the REPL. Many of the things you might consider part of the experience aren't even shell built-ins, they're utilities maintained separately from your shell. Powershell is a good example of a shell scripting language that has a lot more going on than your traditional shell. Native object pipelines, .net libraries, etc. but the most important thing about it is that it's optimized for the REPL.