[RodericDay]

> Though for the present purposes, it it probably sufficient to note that this reformulation is not fairly debatable: "Creators and makers have the right to determine how and where the work they own is distributed."

This is very very debatable. Do you enjoy jumping into arguments where the salient points of debate have been decided before the discussion has even begun?

[pdabbadabba]

In what sense (taking my edit into account) is it debatable that today's copyright law gives creators a robust set of rights to control the copying of their works? (Perhaps our disagreement is over our use of the word 'right'? I had meant it only in the concrete legal sense, and in that sense I don't think there is much to debate. Though if one uses the word in the broader moral sense, I agree that the proposition is very debatable.)

[RodericDay]

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. No disagreement then.