[danneu]

Xenforo is just about best of breed in the domain of modern, traditional forum software. Even phpBB is still around.

I don't blame people for trying to come up with new forum paradigms instead of reimplementing the same solution over and over again.

Then again, forum software that implements modern expectations is never going to be basic.

[babatong]

I would argue however that both Xenforo and phpBB are ridiculously bloated and should hardly be called basic. phpBB more so than Xenforo obviously. None of them offer the far more robust approach of FluxBB.

Thankfully, as FluxBB is opensource, it can be forked and saved from this development direction.

[zyxley]

> and should hardly be called basic

That was danneu's point - that any forum that actually implements most of what people will want out of it (just to start with - separate subforums/categories, user permissions, tags, thread and user following, local and email alerts, broad formatting options, media embeds, per-user display settings, etc etc...) is going to be well beyond "basic" just to get a userbase in the first place.