[meric]

And that's okay. I'll take millions of Indian lives now than thousands of American's and hundreds of Indians in ten years - when a new drug that can save some lives potentially comes onto the market, a new drug not many people can afford.

[saint_fiasco]

I'm not sure where you are getting those numbers. It's very difficult to calculate the costs in human lives of all the drugs that won't be invented in the future.

Lots of people are already dying of antibiotic resistant bacteria, for example, and that's a problem likely to get worse over time.

[meric]

The average Indian cannot afford to take a 1USD per tablet drug once a day. So if that's how all the new drugs are going to be priced - significantly higher than generics, then I say India should go ahead and make generic versions of those drugs, even if it will in future break international law. Who are you to say they should sacrifice their lives so you can have access to better drugs 10 years later that they can't afford anyway?

[saint_fiasco]

India can make generic versions of old drugs. For people who can't afford 1USD a day, having access to bleeding edge medicine isn't going to make as much of a difference as having access to nurses and penicillin. edit: and sanitation, and health education, and so on.

EDIT: Not to mention having their own research and development. I bet it's cheaper to research stuff in India, but evil selfish pharma companies don't want to invest in research in countries with poor intellectual properties protection.

[meric]

Did you know if a pharma company takes an old drug and a new chemical to it to change its effects slightly, the patent is renewed, and that way it it never actually becomes 'old' enough? India will go on and ignore these patents to make generic drugs. Millions of indians have access to affordable medicine today. We can worry about the future benefits when you successfully petition oil companies to stop drilling for oil and invest in renewables instead. The Indian pharmaceutical industry is vibrant and thriving, that is why it has the capacity to reproduce generic versions of patented drugs at will.

You can live a perfectly fine, if frugal, life in India on USD $2 a day, but not if you have to pay for USD $1 tablets.

[saint_fiasco]

>The Indian pharmaceutical industry is vibrant and thriving, that is why it has the capacity to reproduce generic versions of patented drugs at will.

I thought any lab could do that. Isn't the research part the most difficult and expensive part?

>if a pharma company takes an old drug and a new chemical to it to change its effects slightly, the patent is renewed, and that way it it never actually becomes 'old' enough

I've heard about this happening with 'me-too' drugs and bullshit antidepressants. Does it happen as well with essential life saving medicine?

[meric]

I thought any lab could do that. Isn't the research part the most difficult and expensive part?

"The Pharmaceutical industry in India is the world's third-largest in terms of volume and stands 14th in terms of value."

"Indian companies carved a niche in both the Indian and world markets with their expertise in reverse-engineering new processes for manufacturing drugs at low costs."[2]

There is skill involved in reverse-engineering new processes for manufacturing drugs.

Does it happen with essential life saving medicine?

Yes.

"...Glivec, a medicine for chronic myeloid leukemia"[1]

"The Supreme Court defended India’s right to deny patents to incremental improvements. It ruled that Glivec was merely a new form of an older drug and did not constitute a patentable invention. “This is a huge relief,” said Unni Karunakara, the president of Médecins Sans Frontières, which cares for patients in poor countries. Novartis is less pleased, declaring that the ruling “discourages future innovation in India."

Did you previously think pharmaceutical companies care about people's lives more than profit? I'm sorry to disappoint.

[1] http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?client=safari&r...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmaceutical_industry_in_Ind...