[k__]

I had always a bad feeling about angular.

The first guy I heard talking about it was like "It was made by an underdog at google" and "We often had the feeling about hitting a dead end when developing with it, but it was always because we were using it wrong" which both sounded strange to me.

I used ExtJS, Ember and React. And never switched away from them because it wasn't maintained anymore. It just happened that people preferred to use new frameworks on new projects.

[hacker_9]

I know what they mean when they say 'it was always because we were using it wrong'. Last place I worked used Angular 1 for their product reboot, and any time I hit a dead end I'd lookup the problem on stackoverflow only to find I wasn't doing things 'the angular way'. Generally this would be because I'd decided to mix in JQuery and alter some of the visual tree myself (something angular is meant to exclusively take care of).

At the end of the day, when you're writing commercial software in a big team you are inevitably going to have to join up technologies whether you or angular likes it or not. Angular 1 decided to make this a PITA, so I can't ultimately recommend it for use. I haven't looked into Angular 2 though.

[HigginsNinja]

I have been able to combine basically any framework or library with angular for DOM manipulation and other related tasks. You just need to wrap the libraries with angular, which is fairly trivial to do for your selected subset of functionality.

[jsprogrammer]

ExtJS went through some rough upgrade cycles as well. From what I remember, the 2->3 upgrade path covered a small subset of codebases.

[d215]

Ember OTH has the smoothest upgrade path known to man.

[Bahamut]

Not that smooth if you saw the comments on HN last week - teams lost months of productivity keeping up with the rewrites in Ember, even with no immediate breaking changes.

[nstart]

Can I have a link to that please?

[Bahamut]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10054717

[rch]

Angular is my 'plan b' while I continue working with ExtJS.

Last December I coded up just enough of an app in Angular to ensure that my Sencha-focused Flask app would work with another JS framework should the need ever arise. I'd hate to have to go that route of course (even if Sencha changes hands), but it's nice to have options.