[stevejones]

> So, that's the thing, in some ways it's worse. It has more detail, it's voluntary and less intrusive. The one thing which is quite different is it's not a system to control people, by control I mean controlling as in Orwell's vision.

So to start, there's this. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2011/23/schedule/1 It actually replaced the even worse 2005 act. This is not voluntary, is very intrusive and is exactly a system to control people.

But then the actual surveillance, where on earth do you get that it's voluntary. Unless you're suggesting that simply having an Internet connection, a phone or travelling in a town is volunteering to be be surveilled.