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by Retra 3949 days ago
There is no need for abstractions to have a strict hierarchy. they're all abstractions -- They employ some measure of indirection -- and thus neither are fundamental or 'real' if you think about it. The words "physical" or "real" won't help you to understand physics at all.

It's like you're asking if numbers are more fundamental than operations on them when you can't possibly have one without the other.