[timothybone]

Politics is about ethics? Yes, well, do you think an eight year old can look words up in the dictionary? Yes, of course you do. Well I argue that's all it takes, essentially, beyond that an eight year old needs some time, to answer some questions of their own, to be lectured at about the implications. But, an 8yo is perfectly capable of making the right choice, given context/access to information.

And, I'll additionally argue that technical merits can convince someone opposed on humanitarian grounds, the two are not incomparable, we do these sorts of comparisons just fine in the real world.

You are attempting to modularise the argument in a way I find unpalatable is all, our differences are likely surface deep.