[tlogan]

My experience with working with people from Amazon and visiting them is that it is the same as any other big corporation: hard work or initiative does not get you anywhere. Just make your boss happy and try to work as least as possible and you will be fine.

If you are ambitious and you want to grow or something - I do not know. I'm not aware of any big corporation where hard work or new ideas/initiative will get you somewhere.

You can say "fuck Jeff" - but that is because you were naive and Amazon is not red cross.

(I have to make a note about initiative: my previous company sent us to some management classes and on these classes they told us that "Initiative is the key to becoming a star employee" - and we all were laughing since real-world experience thought us that "initiative is easiest way to get yourself sidelined".)

[anawsthrowaway]

>hard work or initiative does not get you anywhere. Just make your boss happy and try to work as least as possible and you will be fine.

I would say that's probably the least true thing here. Amazon is many things, but unrewarding to hard work and initiative is not one of them.

One of the most prized traditions at the company is writing "one pagers". Many new services and product offerings come out of people writing and championing these.

[untog]

So, you haven't ever worked for Amazon. And yet you're telling an Amazon employee what they should have made of an environment that they lived in, and that you've never experienced.

Why?