[lberger]

True, anyone can argue anything, but sleep deprivation is pretty low on the pain scale once you have kids. You discover that the child will bring sleep deprivation to the parents for months on end. But, it isn't torture, because this is what you signed up to do. You volunteered to lose sleep.

On the other hand, once you have teenagers you discover that they would claim confiscating their iPhone for an entire weekend is torture.

[nolok]

That's broken logic on a grand scale. Using the same method, let's justify punching them ...

> True, anyone can argue anything, but getting punched in the face is pretty low on the pain scale once you start boxing. You discover that your sessions on the ring will bring punches to your face for months on end. But, it isn't torture, because this is what you signed up to do. You volunteered to get punched.

Ergo, using your logic, punching prisoners in the face is not torture !

[rudolf0]

Going on minimal sleep for a week is far less severe than no sleep for 11 days straight.

If they were keeping prisoners up for 24-36 hours, I could see that potentially being argued as not torture, if not done frequently. Anything beyond that is cruel.

[twobits]

As you said, "what you signed up to do", and "you volunteered to lose sleep".

And you do that, because evolutionarily, you kind of like your kids. Like a lot.

But without kids, under duress, try to not sleep for 3+ days.

Not funny at all.