[wcummings]

I didn't know HN loved cops so much. In what way is paying a ticket taking "responsibility for your actions"?

[untog]

Both you and the OP are being pretty black and white about this. Paying for speeding tickets you deserve because you were speeding is hardly "loving cops so much".

[wcummings]

Language like "deserve" is what I'm criticizing. Fighting a traffic ticket isn't a moral failure.

[untog]

I mean, if you were speeding above the limit then you do "deserve" a ticket. Everyone is bound by the rules of the road.