[erichmond]

I agree with you in spirit, but that's actually easier said then done in a professional environment.

One of the things that dissuaded me from ruby was the idioms that have surfaced recently. I was tired of submitting pull requests, only to have people tell me there was a "more idiomatic way" to do things, then rewriting things in a way I felt was less clear then what I had originally written.

My solution to that problem was to find a community who's idiomatic ideals more coincided with mine (which happens to be clojure), but I understand not everyone has that sort of luxury.