[acveilleux]

As a canadian, I find that unconvincing. For the last few years up until this July, my commute involved a 900m walk to the nearest subway stop (which I considered nice and short!) year-round. And yes, it took twice as long when there was 8-12" of fresh snow, which happened ib average every other week in winter.

City was Montreal.

[FlannelPancake]

> And yes, it took twice as long

Yeah, that sucks. If it takes you 12 minutes normally to walk 1 km (assuming 5 km/h, which is a normal walking speed), now it takes you 24 minutes to and from the station in the winter.

So you're spending 45 minutes a day just walking to and from the station. If the rest of your commute is 30 minutes (train + walking to work from train), you're commuting for nearly two hours (1:48) every day vs. 1:24 during the summer.

That's assuming you don't also walk slower from the train station to work, which would make it even more of a timesink.

If you lived right near the station, it would be 60 minutes every day, winter or summer.

I mean yeah, it's only an extra 30-60 minutes a day (and your point was really only about winter so we'll be fair and say 30 minutes a day), but shit, I'm not going to turn my nose up at that. I'd definitely pay a small premium to get that time back every single weekday.

[acveilleux]

In Montreal, I can count on the sidewalks being cleared well enough within 48 hours of a big storm and sort of cleared within 8h (< 2" snow, at least 16-20" wide path, basically one pass of the sidewalk plows.)

[FlannelPancake]

As I mentioned above, that's definitely not the case in the outer boroughs of New York (Manhattan in some cases too, depending on where you are, though I don't know that for certain).

There have been weeks at a time where I've had to walk in the street because the sidewalks were just inaccessible or sheets of ice, which makes proximity to the train station all the more important.

[kevin_thibedeau]

NYC gets a different kind of snow than Montreal. Plows just breeze through powder that hasn't been refrozen. Atlantic seaboard snow is a PITA to deal with.

[herge]

You worked in the Mile-end?x ;)

I was just figuring that 1km is about what I would call 'metro-adjacent' for a residence.

[acveilleux]

I worked downtown near gare centrale and lived in Hochelaga near Ontario/Joliette.

Used to live on Waverley near Van Horne and I worked on Querbes and on Parc in mile-end though so I know what you mean. Fuck the rail track...