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by coldtea 3969 days ago
>100% percent yes, for example: The absence of free will forces us to stop judging people, simply because the concept of "guilt" (on the negative side) and the concept of "merit" (on the positive side) are proven to be entirely baseless. If we applied this to our culture, we'd live in a totally different world.

Not really, it doesn't matter. If there's no "free will", then we have no say on whether we judge people or not, not even as to whether we believe in free will or no.

Your answer works accidentally on two conflicting levels, assuming that if we discovered that we have no free will we'd still have free will to act on a certain way upon it (not to mention that the discovery itself wouldn't be on our own free will).

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> if we discovered that we have no free will we'd still have free will to act on a certain way upon it

No because we'd actually act upon it because of purely logical chains (1) of cause and effect, not free will.

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(1) Or rather "networks" (of cause end effect) that work through all of the (currently 4) dimensions.

>No because we'd actually act upon it because of purely logical chains (1) of cause and effect, not free will

First of all, the discovery itself wouldn't be an action of "free will".

Second, who said we can act on "purely logical chains of cause and effect" when there's no free will? Whether we act on those chains or not will already be predetermined by the "no free will" mechanism determining our actions.

If anything, as societies we act pretty illogical a lot of the time (heck, even most), for stuff scientifically known to be BS.

All correct, except:

> as societies we act pretty illogical

It just looks that way on the surface. Below the surface, you can track all decisions back to their causes (down to "the smallest" scope).