[anon3_]

> It seems that as that's picked up the new norm is a "race to the bottom" for women who want traditional relationships.

This is so backwards.

Women use tinder to get attention, not relationships. Rarely sex.

Men are the one's in the race to the bottom. They get ignored by all of them. The women use it to treat men like ants.

Yet these studies and willing betas still treat women like the victims.

As men, the larger issue is this cuckold-psychology where you have to sound charitable to females, even if it takes flat out denial of situations. Women still hold the power.

[johnny22]

Seems like you're projecting. Finding amazing women (as a cis hetorosexual) has never been easier. ATM it's more like the paradox of choice.

[anon3_]

(Disclaimer: I used to work at a dating website.)

You have it backwards. A paradox of choice for females.

Men aren't picking, they're the one's pasting messages desperately to get responses. It's a hopeless situation.

Ever been to a night club? Male:Female ratio? You have any idea how much worse it is on a dating website?

It's interesting how you say I projected, I'm interested in the tendency of men to fib about their success with females.

Yes, I've seen hundreds of comments like yours, then I saw their accounts get banned out of frustration the next day.

Even if you did have success on a dating website (I have, and have had friends who married), by no means are they in favor of men.

If you need me to elaborate on the data, I can.