The content of the post deemed by ICE to warrant ~~federal prosecution~~ crime-boss-style intimidation:
> BREAKING: The ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good in broad daylight has been identified as Jonathan Ross by the Minnesota Star Tribune. I think today is a great day for Johnathan to be indicted!
If anyone is wondering, it would still be a good day : )
The context of contacting this woman in any way for a post this tame is ridiculous, the cop involved should be fired and indicted for harassment himself.
THAT SAID, renee good tried to run over a cop (Jonathan Ross) to escape being arrested and got shot for it. The moment she decided to enact violence against another person she forfeited her right to life. I actually think trying to go after a cop for a clear justified self defense, actually undermines nationwide effort to hold bad cops accountable. It provides justification for police union blue line bullshit. Do not be dishonest or blind when trying to fix police issues in the US or it just makes things worse.
The lack of accountability, how one sided it is, is what's driving people crazy, when cops do something wrong nothing happens. Some people use it as an excuse to demand cops who did nothing wrong get concequences they didn't earn too though, which isn't helpful. Rene good deserved her concequences 100% though what a piece of shit person.
You do realize that's a politically motivated account of actions that has never been subjected to any kind of cross-examination.
I want a trial to know if this was a murder or a law enforcement action or self-defense. I should not be expected to decide PERSONALLY, I'm supposed to have a justice system that does that.
What I heard is that she attempted to drive a way in a direction that would have made no physical contact with the officer, but the vehicle started to slip sideways on ice and travel in the direction of the officer.
If this is all true, the officer might likely be acquitted at trial, as the only necessary justification for such force is that the officer have any reason to fear for their life.
But THERE SHOULD BE A TRIAL. What I have heard from those who have studied the available forensic evidence is that Renee Good never intended to do anything but drive away, which may or may not have been legal but is not (necessarily) attempted murder, nor alone cause for an instant death penalty.
There should be a trial if for no other reason than to clear the name of Renee Good, who you are accusing of a heinous crime
You don't have to 'hear' anything. If you watch the video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNbHlmZVmAw for example (0:55), you see that the tires are turned completely away from the murderer, who fires shots directly into her even though he is obviously not in danger of being seriously harmed.
Trials aren't held for obvious outcomes, the moment she hit the cop with her car there's no reason for that. I understand some people think that violently attacking someone "with power" like a cop can be justified but there is no chance of convicting a cop of anything in this situation. Out here in the real world there are constant abuses by police of non-violent people and even they aren't put on trial for it. Start there.
Frankly there are a lot of cops who need the death penalty for horrific abuse of their positions to rape and kill and yet just get juggled between departments instead, it's insane. And you're here whining about the obvious justified self defense for political reasons, it's stupid.
The fact is hitting the cop with her car is on video and she knew she was under arrest after spending the day blocking the road. You do not get to rewrite reality with your politically motivated desire for a trial.
It's scary that you bring up the question of whether Rene Good was under arrest or not at the time she was killed.
As if it were legal or justified to execute people for failing to cooperate with their own arrest. It's scary because you're not the only person who believes this - many in ICE and other police agencies hold this belief, and by repeating it you encourage them to kill again.
It's scary how insane this reply is considering i clearly stated the reason she got shot is hitting a cop with her car. It is not legal to execute someone for evading arrest but violent assault with a deadly weapon justifies proportional use of force. If you hit a cop with your car while evading arrest getting shot is a given.
> politically motivated terrorist acts such as ... organized doxing campaigns
Clearly she's party to a criminal conspiracy to dox federal agents. It was benevolent of them to let her off with nothing more than a warning to cease and desist.
But she didn't dox him - per the quote above, the Minnesota Star released his name. She simply restated what was reported.
And that's before we consider the absurdity of making the names of federally-sanctioned killers private. They should all be wearing name tags and ID numbers.
And she didn't actually do what the agents claimed in their letter to her:
“This notice officially informs you that it is unlawful to threaten to assault, kidnap, and/or murder a federal official or that federal official’s immediate family member with the intent to impede, intimidate, and/or interfere with the federal official’s duties or retaliate against a federal official due to the performance of their duties."
She did none of the above. She only said "This is his name. Would be nice if he was indicted." That's not a threat - she's not in a position to indict him or sway a DA towards indictment. His family wasn't mentioned. There was no impeding of his work,
This kind of intimidation sucks and I'd like to see individual officers who indulge in it lose their qualified immunity and be prosecuted for it.
But I'm at least grateful to live under a regime that needs to break its own laws to do this, and so such charges can be dismissed by courts that follow the law, even if they don't apply consequences to the offending officials. Compare that to the UK where more than 12k people were arrested for social media posts in 2023 alone and where it is fully permitted under the law with great discretion and supported by the courts.
It's a bit like "my husband is better than yours because he doesn't beat me as hard", but it's something.
Given the costs of defending a federal case start at the five figs and the typical naughty tweets style offense nets community service at worst, I’m not so sure.
Which of the 12K arrests do you not agree with? Or are you saying people should be free to write whatever they want on social media with no repercussions?
The UK case involved him being "lead away" by police and "detained" when he returned and spoke so not really an arrest for holding up a blank piece of paper. Not good by any means, but not quite "for holding up a blank piece of paper". The other UK case was about a threat of arrest if he wrote on the paper - that is under the law that bans protests in Parliament Square. Again, not good, but not for holding up a blank piece of paper.
I thought detainment was a lighter kind of arrest. Seems that I’m wrong and they are distinct concepts (I’m not too familiar with the English terminology here, my bad)
I know in CA it is a violation of election law for an armed law enforcement officer to enter a vote center unless they are responding to an incident or there to vote.
That, in my opinion, is the question of the era for the USA. We were taught that the rule of law prevailed and there are "checks and balances" but it seems like there is no prescibed way to enforce the rules inside the system.
> BREAKING: The ICE agent who shot and killed Renee Good in broad daylight has been identified as Jonathan Ross by the Minnesota Star Tribune. I think today is a great day for Johnathan to be indicted!
If anyone is wondering, it would still be a good day : )