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Extreme Heat conference cancelled due to extreme heat warning (lse.ac.uk)
95 points by rendx 1 hour ago
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Europeans don’t get scolded enough for their resistance to air conditioning. In terms of accounting for preventable deaths, Greece has 2x more heat-related deaths per capita annually than Mississippi has gun deaths.

By comparison, the worst US state for heat related deaths, Nevada - a literal desert - has >10x fewer deaths per capita than Greece.

I completely agree. Historically AC has not been necessary for the one to two days a year it was needed, but that world is gone now and the situation has changed and the widespread adoption of AC is now necessary.

Its going to be a huge challenge because the buildings are not designed with that in mind, many buildings are hundreds of years old making these sorts of renovations notoriously difficult and expensive, but it has to start because climate change is only going to get worse and worse.

Some buildings in Southern Europe have thick as hell walls which isolate from both heat and cold (the North can be really chilly near the Atlantic, and freezing away from the Mediterranean).
Americans don’t get scolded enough for their abuse of AC. In terms of accounting for preventable waste of energy, US guzzles more electricity on cooling than most countries do on everything else.
Are you going to also scold Americans for using heat in the winter?

Our continent has more extreme weather than Europe... we've adapted accordingly because we value human lives. Have you?

AC is sorely lacking in the EU, e.g. right now I have one in my office but not in my bedroom and nights are horrible, but I do read a lot about people overdoing it quite a bit with AC, aiming at 18-20°C during 30s outside which is a huge energy expenditure when a healthy human should be perfectly fine at higher temperatures
Spain's continental climate has both subzero Winters and scorching Summers.
And they had 101 people die of heat-related issues last month. [1] 3,832 Spaniards died in 2025 alone from heat. In 2022, 4,789 died, the all-time high.

The entire United States had 2,325 heat-related deaths in 2023, which is the all-time high.

Do the math (US pop 340M vs Spain 49M) and it gets really ugly.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/business/environment/spain-records-h...

Interesting, so that's the price you put on a life? And people say Americans are heartless capitalists.
Yes, but we’re at least not dying of sweat.

We do a lot of things wrong but AC isn’t one of them.

(Unless you’re in the PNW where they never needed it before recently, and somehow continue to build units without it)

We deserve to be scolded for a lot of things, but not that.
"Abuse" -- what a BS term. It's used just as desired; how can that be "abuse"? Because we do what we want rather than what you want us to want?
"Extreme Heat" seems to be 37-40 degrees Celsius which is bafflingly mundane to me as an Australian who grew up in rural New South Wales. We'd pack 30 kids and a teacher into an un-airconditioned classroom with just a ceiling fan and the windows open in that temperature.

I imagine the buildings there just aren't built to support that heat plus the body height of hundreds or thousands of attendees?

How does the humidity in rural New South Wales compare to London?
Humidity makes a big difference in how stressful the temperature is (wet bulb temperature accounts for this somewhat). The age of the attendees and the tendency of the building to heat would also be factors.
We need a humidity comparison to go with temperature.

I grew up in a humid city and summers were unbearable. Now I live in a dry climate and 30°C is pretty comfortable.

Euro buildings are built to keep heat in. Aus buildings are leaky tents.
40C in the Atlantic Spain with the Foehn effect (weather for today and tomorrow) would make 30C in Australia a joke.

The humidity here it's hell. You feel 35C like ~42C in dry climates.

the British are notoriously sensitive to heat. They'll call 30 Celsius weather a heat wave.
That’s normal where I live in the Southeast US from late May to late September. Plus 60-99% humidity, I can see the air in the mornings.

There’s something about 85F/30C and 80%+ humidity that prevents the temp from going much higher for a longer period of time.

I'm from Portugal and I start losing it at 25. 30 degrees is insane.

Last summer my house got to 39, and I didn't have AC (it was broken). I think I'm still recovering.

I had 40 Celsius today at around 9pm. Middle of the night now and it’s 34. It’s as cool as it’s going to get before it starts heating up again tomorrow. Where I live there are no laws on max temperature in residential housing so the owner (I’m renting) doesn’t have to do anything about it. Never mind the poorly insulated, black slate roof (I’m on the last floor) or lack of AC (I’d have to foot the bill anyway).
> Hosted in collaboration with the Zurich Climate Resilience Alliance.

Their climate resilience seems low.

> The event will finish with a fire side chat

Is this a prank?

A fire side chat does not mean there will be an actual fire

It's corpo speak for "a more casual discussion"

Reminds me of "dermatology convention in Hawaii": https://youtube.com/shorts/1uRxIe1dXGU
So calling for the conference and cancelling it raises awareness of extreme heat? Well played
At first I thought it was just virtue signaling. But no, its the venue.

>Venue: LSE Shaw Library, Houghton St, Old Building, London

https://halls.lse.ac.uk/story/25006031/deal-with-the-uk-weat...

> LSE halls (like most houses in the country) don't have air conditioning, it can be quite suffocating.

I blame LSE. Uni should provide safe and comfortable environment for students.

> At first I thought it was just virtue signaling.

Maybe examine the reflex to dismiss out of hand without evidence?

Uni is just preparing the students for the realities of the real world =[