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Louisiana Advances One of the Country's 'Cruelest' Anti-Homeless Bills (commondreams.org)
39 points by MiguelX413 54 days ago
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There is homelessness, and then there is drug and/or alcohol addiction.

> Those who are convicted of sleeping outdoors could be given the option to avoid jail time by instead entering into a mandatory treatment program for at least 12 months.

What happens if someone is homeless and not addicted to drugs or alcohol? Why assume everyone who is homeless is also an addict? It seems entirely reasonable that someone homeless AND addicted to drugs/alcohol should be required to enter into a treatment program.

Yeah, this is punishing people for being homeless, just like Boise (though their city rules were eventually overturned)...

They had a law that it was illegal to sleep outdoors as long as a designated shelter said they had a bed available. One of the more heavily Christian shelters said their policy was to always say they had a bed available, i.e. turn nobody away.

But to stay at their shelter meant mandatory church attendance, mandatory prayer and other religious observances.

So it became de facto enforced that the homeless could face religious indoctrination or jail as their options. Was eventually turned over by threats of or actual moves to challenge constitutionality.

Because this isn't about helping people. This is about punishing the homeless.
Or to be more generous, they are tired of seeing drug addicted people sleeping in the street.
My heart bleeds for the person who sees someone sleeping in the street and assumes the sight of it is the tiresome thing.
Your heart doesn't have to bleed for such a person but I think most people would agree it is tiresome to see homeless people in the street. It is also a public health issue. Doing heroin in the middle of the sidewalk and throwing the needle on the ground is obviously extremely un-hygienic and dangerous to everyone.
You write more but there is still not a hint of sympathy in your words for humans living in the street.
Yes, so instead of helping them, they want them to be imprisoned. Out of sight, out of mind, right?
The American mindset: “if they’re homeless, they clearly did something wrong and/or deserve it.”
Right, despite the biggest cause of homelessness: medical debt.
Citation needed.
Medical debt is the biggest cause of bankruptcies. I assume bankruptcy and homelessness are correlated, but I haven't seen stats on homelessness.
I certainly do not agree with that. My point is that this article itself conflates homelessness and addiction, which I think is a serious error.
I know. I mean this is the mindset that causes this conflation in the first place.
What specific information makes you think that?
> Those who are convicted of sleeping outdoors could be given the option to avoid jail time by instead entering into a mandatory treatment program for at least 12 months. The bill authorizes local governments to set up semi-permanent camps in remote areas, where defendants would be required to stay and receive treatment.

So basically state funded mandatory rehab for everyone ?

Doesn't the article say they have to pay for it themselves?
arbeit macht frei
While your quote is meant to be snarky, my understanding is that sign isn't at Dachau any longer
It seems strange that they removed the sign after the fact. Unless it was to prevent theft.

Copperhead Road in Johnson County TN (that Copperhead Road) is now known as Copperhead Hollow Road for that reason.

I'm pretty sure it was stolen, then apparently found in a parking lot in Norway. I don't know if they ever got around to putting the real one back up
> semi-permanent camps

they're just building concentration camps

and they're camps, not even buildings or treatment facilities. that's gonna get ugly in LA in the summer

> The bill requires homeless defendants to pay “all or part of the cost of the treatment program to which he is assigned,” ... the average cost for residential drug and alcohol rehab treatment in Louisiana is more than $4,400 per week

> According to the bill, those who cannot afford this steep cost would be required to perform unpaid labor for the state or a local community center in lieu of payment.

WTAF? So if you're homeless you are forced to a rehabilitation center (that part isn't so bad in itself) but for which you bear the cost of, and since you have no money (or you wouldn't be homeless), you have to become an indentured servant for a very long time.

funny how all of the most christian places (e.g. the deep south) are often the least christian
many places have resorted to giving homeless people money and or casual labour for there city/town, a very large percentage then unfortunately get stabilised and re oriented into productive roles and are no longer able to be monitised by the legal/beurocratic industrial complex
henceforth know as The Big Difficult