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Show HN: 50x50.space a public board to doodle together (50x50.space)
39 points by limboy 1595 days ago
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Doesn't seem to work in Mobile Safari.

Just getting the explainer text in the header, "Recent board" and a ghost emoji at the bottom and the rest is completely blank.

HTTP 500 from their API, maybe try again later
Didn't work on safari or chrome on osx ;/
It was working fine before, HN hug of death?
should works now
Thats going to take me at least half a day to draw a penis on.
Reset time has reduced to 5 minutes. half a day is not needed
Challenge accepted!
Getting a lot of /r/place vibes...
Was not intended like that. Reverse the argument: it’s really hard to vandalise it due to the relatively low attention span of vandals and the throttling.
I still haven't been able to access it, but I'm assuming it wouldn't be too hard to set a bot up and have it draw on certain coordinates.
Mhh.. down? Looks like it uses some platform called Vercel..

From their homepage, it doesn't sound like it's too obsessed with performance ;)

  Vercel combines the best developer experience with an obsessive focus on end-  user performance.
Vercel is great. The dev just most likely fucked up his code thats why you're getting 500 on the API.
> The dev just most likely fucked up his code

That's a bit harsh. You don't know that (and the dev is reading these comments).

To be fair, 100% of software problems were created by the person in front of the keyboard. An empty source file has no bugs.
True. As long as you don't use any external dependency like APIs, libraries, databases.
there's something wrong with upstash service, looking into it.

Vercel is good :)

what exactly is the problem you are experiencing?
upstash.com has a limit of 1mb size per request. Have to split it into multi sub requests
Can't get it working here, but sounds similar to

- /r/place

- [milliondollarhomepage](http://www.milliondollarhomepage.com/)

- [yourworldoftext](https://www.yourworldoftext.com/)

- and someone here pointe out [satoshis.place](https://satoshis.place/)

yes, some inspiration come from /r/place and milliondollarhomepage

haven't heard last two, seems interesting.

I fail to see the point of this. I can paint exactly one square and then wait for 5 minutes while nothing^H^Hbarely anything is happening? I can't doodle anything meaningful without filling at least 5x5 area, and I need to spent at least two hours for that.

I think this could be more attractive if done as a turn-based play. Fill a square within, say, 10 sec and then wait until everyone currently online finishes their turn. And so on.

I tried opening it with desktop Safari, Firefox (both with content blockers) and Chromium (no content blockers), none worked. Is it down at the moment? Also: is there more context to read in the meantime? E.g. an announcement or blog that describes the project?
So this isn't even working for me. Generally in order for me to say I like something and not give some negative feedback it needs to be working.
Most likely it's the HN hug of death, where a bunch of users go from here to their site. Usually this happens to sites on the front page with low specs.
Still down for me. Seems like they couldn't keep it working at all or it didn't work when it was submitted.
I'm getting:

Access restricted Site: 50x50.space This site is blocked. Please contact your administrator for further assistance.

Sounds like your network is blocking it. Company computers?
This doesn't seem to be a single 50x50 space but multiple that requests are randomly routed to.
Would like to buy the filled board as nft.
this reminds me of satoshis.place (1 pixel on such a board = 0.00000001 Bitcoin)
Great idea, let's sell pixels as NFTs. But how would they control colour? Can the owner of an NFT add to or alter its metadata in anyway?

Bit tongue in cheek really. People are already slamming NFTs as useless scams, the media would have a field day over this lol.

Actually while not preferred, yes altering metadata is possible by either linking tokenUri to off-chain http server or having the ERC-721 token's smart contract's functions modify state and tokenUri returning some base64-encoded dynamic data based on the on-chain state (which I personally implemented and works pretty great).

Though it brings a less-technological yet more philosophical question about NFTs and what they represent being forever the same/frozen, or not, though I don't think it's the discussion for here.

Hm yeah I think it's an interesting concept, perhaps it's not preferred under current NFT definitions to my mind something can be both non-fungible and mutable. I can own a house, but I can renovate the interior, add rooms, paint walls etc - those changes are done _to_ the house, it's still the same house, and I still own it.

Off-chain solutions where longevity is concerned don't sit well with me - I don't personally trust oracles to be available for eternity or remain benevolent. Your approach based on a smart contract sounds good as it's on-chain. But would it be preferred to have a dynamic / mutable NFT standard with this capability baked in somehow?

Anyway not really my wheelhouse, and as you say probably off topic for now. Just something I find interesting to consider.

The functionality that alters the metadata is actually a requirement for our project. As time passes the token turns into something different. (For clarification: this is clearly defined in our whitepaper, website, Discord server, and most importantly easily verifiable on contract code itself so no shady business here)

Strictly speaking, ERC-721 (the official standard for NFTs on Ethereum) doesn't say that whatever is returned from tokenUri function (which defines all the properties, name, image etc. of the particular NFT) can't change. So in simpler terms the contract can change the tokenUri afterwards (of course if there is code in the contract to support that).

It boils down to how users/community perceive NFTs, and your house analogy is perfect for what we are doing (in our case something is "happening to the house as time passes" but you get the idea). In the technical sense the standard is agnostic about tokenUri mutability, as long as the token DOES have a tokenUri (which can just be a base64 "data:" URI anyway).

It will be interesting to see what's possible, I'm pretty much sure that the "killer app" based on ERC-721's haven't been invented and when this Ponzi-like ridiculously pricing of non-functional NFTs mania is over, we'll start seeing some real solutions.

> But how would they control colour?

You can't use colors... they've been sold, lol.

https://www.printmag.com/design-news/the-color-museum/

Had this exact idea for months. Maybe should have acted quicker.
There's a dedicated nft button on most full sized keyboards
Is that Alt+F4?
"ctrl+w = friends" was my nickname on agar.io. Pretty effective.
if you want to do it with NFT: https://project-memento.com/