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Database containing personal info of 106M visitors to Thailand exposed online (comparitech.com)
105 points by nexus7556 1734 days ago
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I guess I'm in there too. But passports get copied and provided to so many institutions these days that I wouldn't even consider nationality and passport number as private.

Now, if someone is traveling to Thailand to partake of some of the more controversial options, then I can see how this would be damaging.

We should all do our best to maintain privacy, but at the same time we should understand that the concept of privacy is changing. And by that I mean that we have less - and will have even less in the future - privacy than people did 10+ years ago.

It won't be long before biometric and other personally identifiable scanners will be integrated into much of what we touch or where we go. It may not be publicly known or even legal, but it will (and probably already does) happen. Just look at the NFC and facial recognition systems in much of our shopping places...

> we have less - and will have even less in the future - privacy than people did 10+ years ago

ok, but hunter-gatherers had only minimal privacy so we can adapt to a wide range of "privacies".

yes, it is true that the possibility of "increasingly impersonal threats from far away" has risen dramatically in recent history and it's not clear how well we will adapt to that.

> hunter-gatherers had only minimal privacy

What's your definition of privacy?

Of course it's elasticsearch. Elastic did irreparable damage by paywalling authentication and TLS on a supposedly open source project. If you make security optional, you've created an insecure and unsafe product.
What dangers are associated with this type of data becoming public?

I can imagine burglars using this info to decide which houses and apartments to rob.

Anything else that comes to mind?

Any first / second hand experiences of what can happen if private data like this becomes public?

This is useful to attackers in social engineering scenarios for sure.

Additionally, some KBA authentication schemes might still be in place which make leaks like this one particularly problematic. Eg. one of my banks still asks relatively easy to answer questions to authenticate me when I call to unlock my card.

The most infamous KBA incident was the large scale IRS's tax returns fraud that occurred in 2014-2015:

- https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/03/sign-up-at-irs-gov-befor...

- https://krebsonsecurity.com/2015/08/irs-330k-taxpayers-hit-b...

- https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/02/irs-390k-more-victims-of...

The type of data leaked by the Thai government doesn't look too bad, but one should not underestimate the creativity of attackers, especially when the amount of data is large (and might overlap with other, previous breaches that contain different attributes.)

(In the US) passport info is not typically used for KBA, none of the common providers do it.
I get spam emails all the time which claim to have webcam pics of the recipient in flagrante delicto, oh and here’s a Bitcoin address you should send to if you don’t want them public. Rubbish, of course, as there’s nothing targeted about them; just a cleverly-worded mass email disguised as an individual extortion attempt. The next obvious step, however, is sprinkling enough details in to make it more convincing. “I have pics of what you did in Thailand in January 2019” would surely generate a lot more concern in a subset of the recipients.
When I get those I like to look up the bitcoin address on block explorer. Last time I checked one, two people had paid it out. No clue how many messages the spammer had sent, but there was at least a bit of payoff
I haven’t looked in a while but I think every example, even though the text was identical, had a different address. So if the one you saw already had two transactions...
Same here. I noticed they in the early days of the scam there were very payments (cannot say obviously if all were talked to that scam).

Then it was mostly empty wallets with the occasional one or two transactions.

The early scammers made a lot of money.

How is somebody going to get your address from this info? Did you actually look at what was leaked?
It's strange that it doesn't contain addresses. There's a bunch of other information you have to fill in including address on your arrival forms - so if it's the case that "this is it", we got off lightly. I have travelled there three times in the last ten years.
Also lucky the biometric data from passports wasn't included - portrait photos and fingerprint data. (https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2012/490362/)
I visited Thailand about six times in the last four years so this is a bit concerning to me. I really wish there were more details and hope that I can find out if my data was exposed as a part of this.
The database included full names, passport numbers, arrival dates, and more.
Yes, but it's been taken down. I can't query the dataset to see if I, personally, have been exposed.
Tell me your passport number, names, DOB and I will look it up and let you know… /s
I'm literally in Thailand right now and really can't say this bothers me. None of that info is sensitive
Name -> passport # isn't concerning?
No, why would it be?

I've provided it to hotel staff, Airbnb hosts, condo security, car rental places, airline staff, and more over the years. They all make copies of it digitally and physically so it's floating around out there in lots of places.

Next time I get a passport it will change anyways so I'm not sure I see the big deal even if it was a unique, never changing number.

15 years ago a foreigner couldn't even get a hotel room in Thailand without handing over passport information for each guest. I can't imagine it's changed much since then. If the Thai police want to track you down it wouldn't be very hard.
What can you do with a passport number?
Some crypto websites accept Passport as a means to verify you before you can withdraw funds.
Identity fraud

open bank accounts and launder money and lead a mile long paper trail to the wrong person

If you travel much, or nowadays if you register on just about any legitimate cryptocurrency exchange, you've already shared this information - and usually with a photo.

And with the new COVID stuff/vaccinations, it's being shared more often even if you don't travel.

> And with the new COVID stuff/vaccinations, it's being shared more often even if you don't travel.

What does that have to do with anything? How is your passport information shared any more than before because of "COVID stuff/vaccinations"?

Yet.
thanks for nothing incompetent Thai gov!

- someone who has been to Thailand frequently pre covid.

Would be fun to query that DB for men traveling to Thailand alone several times per year.