Why don't they revolt by quitting? I know not every employee is able to do that but I'm guessing that at Facebook the vast majority could switch job fairly easily.
Once Facebook realizes that they are losing good employees they are more likely to change those policies.
Unfortunately most Facebook employees want to continue getting outrageously paid at the 95 percentile of the market and soft "revolting" without risking their $$$. That tells a lot a bout their convictions.
A normal engineer or designer doesn't have that power either way. The only power they have is staying or leaving.
Upper management, yeah, they might be able to effect change from within. But, even that is going to be severely limited in the face of a big-name founder like Zuckerberg.
I'm honestly not sure quitting is actually the most effective way to get what they want.
Managers and high profile people at companies like Facebook have a lot of leverage and can organise relatively easily because there's relatively few of them. The senior tech people and management need to recognise that they hold a ton of power because they basically run the place, their influence would be much better served by pressuring Facebook. It's Facebook who can't afford to lose them.
There needs to be some sort of class consciousness for the 'top 10% but not 0.1%'. They've got all the leverage in the world, and increasingly share no common ground with the owners of the business.
The linked article does say that some are doing just that, or at least threatening to:
> Two senior Facebook employees told The New York Times that they had informed their managers that they would resign if Mr. Zuckerberg did not reverse his decision. Another person, who was supposed to start work at the company next month, told Facebook they were no longer willing to accept a position at the company because of Mr. Zuckerberg’s decision.
Human progress is neither automatic nor inevitable... Every step toward the goal of justice requires sacrifice, suffering, and struggle; the tireless exertions and passionate concern of dedicated individuals.
This is akin to saying “love the country or leave it”.
If people have the chance to openly disagree with leadership, they probably can try to effect change - quitting is just giving up and letting those in favor of the status quo to keep driving decisions as they already do?
I actually like Zuckerberg's response. I dont want tech companies being the arbiters of truth, leave that up to us to decide.
As far as 12 employees upset they are not getting their way, we all work in companies with people having differing opinions and perspectives. We can't force everyone to do as we feel and have to accept that we are going to have to work with other people and decisions may not fit our specific worldview.
"Facebook employees are beginning to revolt" is not an acceptable title for a company of 50,000 when what you're really discussing is a small amount of employees speaking out, as well as expressing your own disagreement.
It's also very short-sighted to not realize that there are reasons to not remove certain content besides "we agree with and like the content".
All these "revolution" articles get very tiring when you realize how little they are actually reporting on, if anything
"The React Core team is joining the Facebook employee walkout in solidarity with the Black community.
Facebookʼs recent decision to not act on posts that incite violence ignores other options to keep our community safe. We implore the Facebook leadership to #TakeAction."
Man, every time I click a twitter link I'm reminded just how incredibly toxic and confrontational it is a community, and it almost always comes from blue check mark "endorsed contributors".
I now strongly believe it is negative for us as a society.
Blowing up a bus full of kids achieves no political goal in no scenario, nor should it.
Racism is racism, although reprehensible, is protected from government censorship and prior restraint. Companies providing for-profit platforms aren't the government and can do whatever they want since the first amendment doesn't apply to them.
If people really wanted free speech, they wouldn't popularize a company's platform but would pay a little to support and use a non-profit public commons platform that was sensibly/lightly regulated.
>More than a dozen Facebook employees tweeted that they disagreed with Mr. Zuckerberg’s decision, including the head of design of Facebook’s portal product, Andrew Crow.
Gruber’s not really adding much here to the original NYT reporting. I would suggest changing the URL for this submission to point directly to the article at the Times.
I'm confused why people that are anti-Trump don't wish his remarks, that they would presumably characterise as completely and unambiguously unacceptable, to face the scrutiny of the public to the fullest extent. Especially in an election year. It seems clearly in the public interest that this sort of speech by the president isn't censored and is discussed far and wide, and exposed to the light of day. The only reason I can think of for people wanting to suppress it is that they have such a low estimation of the average American, that they deem it simply too dangerous to be publicised. I must admit, I don't think any private business, or group of individuals, should make these sorts of judgements on behalf of an entire nation. The only way out of this crisis is by rapid and painful evolution, with the threat of failure real and ever-present. Coddling, control of information and censorship isn't the answer.
Someone has to start and these few people are the ones raising their hand up. More will follow over time. I can imagine the current economic climate is probably restraining a lot of people right now. In that sense Zuckerberg has some time to fix it he wants to. But I would expect the voices to grow louder over time.
Are they really? I read the NYT article and there were no names of anyone who is really coming forward. It could be happening, but if it's all just anonymous quotes how will we know?
I mean if this is important enough to protest, why not go on the record?
Once Facebook realizes that they are losing good employees they are more likely to change those policies.
Unfortunately most Facebook employees want to continue getting outrageously paid at the 95 percentile of the market and soft "revolting" without risking their $$$. That tells a lot a bout their convictions.