It's hard to find information on this marketing website. Here is a summary gathered from the comments :
- It's for windows
- It's not open source
- They plan to build a cross-platform IDE using Electron
I think we have solid alternative in the open source world and I don't really see how this product is better (This is based on the information provided by the website).
I'm pretty sure the GUI developers of DBeaver are blind sadists who want to punish all database admins for their sins. It would be considered 'cruel and unusual' in any U.S. court of law. It's not just ugly, it's a crime against humanity itself. Small animals within 10 yards of a computer inexplicably die any time the program is started.
That said, it really is quite useful and usually the best tool to get db stuff done quickly. It's my go to dbadmin app.
Phew, it's not just me then. I use it in a clean room after locking the house up.
The fact I happened to save one ad-hoc SQL query now means every time I hit the "New script" button I have an interstitial step where I have to say, "No, not that script, a new one" is frustrating.
For use with Oracle, I switched after many years from Oracle SQL Developer to DBeaver; the latter is rather close, except for advanced Oracle-specific features.
SQL Developer caused me significant file system grief by creating recursive directory hard links in the settings folder (on Windows), so it's banned forever from my systems.
Serious question, what advantage do any of these GUIs have over the CLI provided by most databases? Or for something more fancy, the mycli family of tools.
That's a very good point. Thank you for the comment! I'll mention it to my team and have that issue fixed. :) We are also currently beta testing a cross-platform IDE, so please stay tuned!
Can you give some info about the cross platform version - specifically the UI toolkit it uses? i.e. it is Java, QT, Electron, platform-specific UI with a C/C++ core, etc?
I'd be delighted to! We're using Electron, React and TypeScript. You can check out our development team's blog here for more information:
- Cross-Platform Application Design with Electron, React, and gRPC (https://medium.com/p/c13a429b5346/)
- Why Did We Choose React and TypeScript for QueryPie? (https://medium.com/p/56c9b2ab352)
This is Hacker News so you will get lots of people chiming in to remind you they won’t use your project because it’s Electron. The people like me usually don’t say anything but I know how disheartening it can be to only receive negativity so I’m going to chime in.
I’m currently running Slack and Discord and am happy with both desktop applications. I would absolute consider using any future electron based applications in the future.
Would you prefer no one said anything, and the OP wasn't aware that their technical choices will affect whether potential customers use their app?
This isn't like "I don't like .Net so I'm not going to use any web app or service that runs on the Microsoft stack". The technology choices they make affect how it runs on each individual user's computer, and that will affect some people's decision to use (or not) the app.
I'm not sure the "free" version of the product exists. After installing from here https://www.sqlgate.com/product/download and handing over a lot of personal information, I received a time-limited trial version. Uninstalled.
I just needed a DB-client with which 1) I could have multiple SQLs in a single page/file (hope you know what I mean) and 2) execute single ones based on where the cursor is positioned, 3) without a delimiter at the end of each SQL, and 4) see as well execution plans (for some DBs e.g. MariaDB) and 5) to work with multiple databases (MariaDB, PostgreSQL, Clickhouse, DB2, MonetDB, Oracle, generic JDBC) and DBeaver totally saved me and I don't see any alternative (which I now anyway don't need).
I would pay for the "enterprise edition", but for a fixed amount not limited by usage but based on SW-versions (e.g. get upgrades for 1 year and after that to be able to keep using "the old version XYZ" until I have a reason to upgrade for which I would have to pay again). The 149$/year ( https://dbeaver.com/ at the bottom) sounds like it would stop working after 1y no matter which version I'm using :(
I also switched, pgAdmin4 is terrible and using pgAdmin3 with new PostgreSQL versions wasn't officially supported (manual driver upgrade mostly worked).
DataGrip is $20 a month for more features. However, after you've paid for 12 months you get perpetual access, so you can essentially pay for 12 months (or yearly at $199) and it essentially becomes a one-time license to that version if you'd rather not keep paying.
(I've been a DataGrip customer for a couple of years now)
/yeah, I know that it went the opposite way; it just bugs me that I can't have great C/C++ support in IntelliJ like you used to get with the plugin that no longer works...
I've been using Toad for a long time and looking for something better, less buggy, more performant. Watching the video this looks very promising. Looking at the limitation of the Free version, it's too limiting to really give it a try. For example, only one connection at a time, limit to two tabs, no data import and export, clipboard size limit. I need to see how it handles my everyday usage before I can determine if I want to switch.
Tried this for a few minutes at work (very heavy SQL Server shop). It doesn't play well with databases that have different schemas but the same table name.
schema1.users
schema2.users
schema3.users
schema4.users
The auto-complete seems to always choose the last one and it displays it as 'users' with no indication of the schema. This alone makes this unusable for me at the present time
is "Show HN:" a paid way for companies to advertise on hacker news? If not, awesome, otherwise, I feel a bit naive in thinking HN was a more pure approach to content and would be very disappointed.
Well the guidelines say that "Show HN is a way to share something that you've made on Hacker News." but it looks like the community is satisfied to have marketers promoting (which is what OP does) instead of builders discussing with other hackers.
I share your disappointment and would like to know how the admins see this.
$15-25 a month? (or $40 a month for all?) (The free version doesn't support basic things like import and export, so it's really not viable for professionals)
DataGrip is $20/month, for all databases, and includes additional ones this product doesn't support. Nor does it have limits like the number of tabs you can have open. And it's cross platform today.
On the Frontpage, "Start your Subscription" inside the Description for the Free Version there is the Link [0] which leads to a broken "403 forbidden" page.
My main annoyance, so to say, with DataGrip is their certificate handling. It ignores the root certs in MacOS keychain and I have to add those in the app.
But other than that I love it. It's replaced all other SQL tools/ide/admin I've used.
- It's for windows
- It's not open source
- They plan to build a cross-platform IDE using Electron
I think we have solid alternative in the open source world and I don't really see how this product is better (This is based on the information provided by the website).