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FriCAS – an advanced computer algebra system (fricas.github.io)
58 points by unicas 2647 days ago
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Wikipedia luckily provides some context, as the linked page is bit spartan:

> In 2007, Axiom was forked twice, originating two different open-source projects: OpenAxiom[3] and FriCAS,[4] following "serious disagreement about project goals".[5] The Axiom project continued to be developed

So FriCas is one of the three main branches of Axiom. But what is Axiom?

> Axiom is a free, general-purpose computer algebra system. [..] which defines a strongly typed, mathematically (mostly) correct type hierarchy [..] and a sophisticated (dependent) type system

> The primary philosophy is that Axiom needs to develop several fundamental features in order to be useful to the next generation of computational mathematicians

This helps make sense of the description of FriCAS

> FriCAS is a general purpose computer algebra system with a strong focus on mathematical research and development of new algorithms

So in summary sounds something that is more aimed to actual mathematicians rather than engineers or other scientists who would be more interested in practical applied methods.

Of the forks, FriCAS on a surface level seems the most alive. Original Axiom had its last release in 2014, but appears to still have some ongoing development. OpenAxiom had last release in 2013 and last commit in 2015, so it feels pretty dead to me. FriCAS meanwhile has had 9 releases since 2014 and at least some activity in GitHub.

The last Axiom update was just this week (March 21, 2019). In general, Axiom is updated about once a month.

The current Axiom effort is directed toward proving the algorithms. The research combines computer algebra with proof theory. A survey done last year shows that there is almost no overlap between these two fields of computational mathematics.

Computer algebra IS mathematics. The present state of the art is "works-for-my-case" implementations. That is fine for the short term but Axiom focuses on the "30 Year Horizon". Early computer algebra systems did integration "by heuristics". Systems like Axiom use the Risch algorithm.

The next generation systems should use proven algorithms. At this time this is still an open research area. Axiom was originally a research platform (at IBM Research) and, as open source, still retains its research focus. Research takes time.

This is a difficult research problem. Not everyone agrees it can or should be done. "Works-for-my-case" implementation is easier.

Axiom and Fricas are not in competition. We simply have different goals. The Fricas people are doing excellent work. I would encourage you to try the software.

Tim Daly (Axiom Lead Developer)

> The last Axiom update was just this week (March 21, 2019). In general, Axiom is updated about once a month.

The website could be made clearer on that part. I was reading these pages which imply 2014 being last release

http://www.axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/releasenotes.ht...

http://www.axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/currentstate.ht...

On the other hand, the download page has 2017 version available as the latest

http://www.axiom-developer.org/axiom-website/download.html

If the project is alive and active, please let show so people would be more inclined to try it out.

> In 2007, Axiom was forked twice, originating two different open-source projects: OpenAxiom[3] and FriCAS,[4] following "serious disagreement about project goals".[5]

Do you know what this disagreement was/is about?

Yes. (Tim Daly, Axiom Lead Developer)
And what was it about?
The API search is odd thing to link. This is a better home page:

http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/FrontPage

There's a very interesting and insightful commentary from one of the authors here: http://axiom-wiki.newsynthesis.org/PanAxiomCommunity

How does it compare to Maxima?
Anyone here used Magma? I was University of Sydney grad and I have fond memories of using Magma.
Anyone with more knowledge of this know what exactly it is, or how it works?
I got a pretty good idea from skimming the FriCAS book:

http://fricas.sourceforge.net/doc/index.html